01:03:38 Marc-Antoine Parent: Personal opinion: It’s good to keep a call where the connections between subprojects are discussed...
01:05:13 Marc-Antoine Parent: Aware of https://github.com/regen-network/rhizome-db.git ?
01:05:16 Blaine Cook: A wild Boris is spotted!
01:05:48 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): Well I’m not at least! Thanks for the link MA!
01:06:14 Marc-Antoine Parent: (I thought I had heard that name before… it’s very popular)
01:06:48 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): We know of at least one more, but talked with that person who is fine with us using the name. I guess there’s a bunch though!
01:07:54 Blaine Cook: Hahaha like the other one we’re aware of, regent-network’s looks … not totally dissimilar to ours.
01:08:07 Blaine Cook: Kind of fitting for rhizomatic databases 😅
01:14:59 Boris Mann: Here’s the reference https://xlcollaborative.com/introduction
01:15:05 Marc-Antoine Parent: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/CopyFair_License
01:17:02 Quinn Wilton: Koolaid Mann
01:17:38 Blaine Cook: https://talk.fission.codes/t/nns-the-name-name-system/3684
01:17:41 Sodium : i definitely agree with quinn fwiw. in principle: sounds neat. logistically?? sounds v tricky, especially given like, privacy and pseudonymity and decision making concerns
01:18:01 Marc-Antoine Parent: Ah! Look at https://www.collaborative.tech
01:19:17 Boris Mann: And invent the universe
01:19:21 Sodium : also slightly less Koolaid Manned: if a bunch of (actual, consistent) contributors *do* show up, it'd probably make sense to set up a whole process for community-led decision making process a la rust
01:19:35 Quinn Wilton: https://github.com/subconsciousnetwork/noosphere
01:19:51 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): They totally missed calling it NooNS? (“Newness”)
01:20:02 Boris Mann: @Na yes, I am exploring speed running that
01:20:31 Boris Mann: e.g. right now only people who are “privileged” to have free time can afford to spend extra time writing code
01:20:54 Marc-Antoine Parent: Gordon Brander
01:20:58 Boris Mann: And also, from a corporate perspective, rather than just the fruits of Fission’s investment, can we get a couple of other orgs to commit engineering time up front
01:21:41 Quinn Wilton: In the FCU (Fission Cryptographic Universe)
01:22:31 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): @Quinn — you know, I don’t hate it!
01:22:46 Marc-Antoine Parent: I dug a bit into noosphere. It is quite fascinating that he had to reimplement a naming system on libp2p partly because of, if I understand well, ipns performance issues 🙁
01:23:34 Quinn Wilton: What if UCAN can do did:*?
01:23:44 Sodium : something something rel=me
01:24:12 Quinn Wilton: I still love the name WHOCAN
01:24:16 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): SAME
01:24:22 Sodium : :100:
01:24:41 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): WhoCAN: Names / ownership
01:24:46 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): UCAN: auth
01:24:51 Marc-Antoine Parent: WhoCan, UCan… what will you name WeCan?
01:24:52 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): DoCAN: invocation
01:25:13 James Walker (@walkah): WeCAN: the community collaboration around all of this
01:25:26 James Walker (@walkah): @Brooklyn UCANDo?
01:25:40 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): CanDo 🫡
01:25:49 James Walker (@walkah): But *willdo* is the hard part
01:26:00 Quinn Wilton: The DIDCAN is a revocation list
01:26:06 Marc-Antoine Parent: One difficulty with IPNS is name ownership. How would it work with your system?
01:26:09 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): Just because you CAN do, doesn’t mean you SHOULD do
01:27:50 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): @Quinn: why not CAN NOT?
01:28:29 Quinn Wilton: We should just consolidate them all under 2119CAN
01:28:51 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): CAN-2119
01:28:53 Quinn Wilton: Sorry, we SHOULD just consolidate them all under 2119CAN
01:29:11 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): Haha
01:31:23 Quinn Wilton: This is what Brooke is talking about: https://github.com/ucan-wg/spec/issues/130
01:31:51 Quinn Wilton: And more discussion here: https://github.com/web3-storage/specs/issues/13
01:36:21 Sodium : card?
01:36:38 Boris Mann: OpenGraph / OEmbed
01:36:54 Boris Mann: I don’t know if they use Twitter flavoured graph or Facebook flavoured graph
01:37:24 Joshua Fontany: Facebook locked their OEmbed data behind api keys.
01:37:47 Boris Mann: Yeah, OEmbed is the JS embedding stuff as opposed to web page previews of OpenGraph
01:38:08 Joshua Fontany: I was trying to get a Tiddlywiki-server OEmbed plugun working around that point.
01:38:39 Marc-Antoine Parent: I maintain you need a connection call
01:43:20 Zeeshan Lakhani: Yep. Def desktop/server first.
01:43:54 Sodium : hey! for once firefox isn't the broken one :tada:
01:44:10 Quinn Wilton: Are you a glass +NaN full or a glass -NaN empty kind of person
01:44:29 Blaine Cook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Anne
01:44:43 Blaine Cook: Aka Saint Nan
01:45:04 Blaine Cook: The canonical grandmother
01:50:16 Matt Johnston: exciting!
01:50:25 Marc-Antoine Parent: Certainly interested to look at the db
01:51:09 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): Datalog or horror movie. Your choice!
01:51:14 Marc-Antoine Parent: ophiocordyceps?
01:51:27 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): Datacordyceps!
01:51:44 Blaine Cook: https://twitter.com/mondomascots/status/1143359002891259905?s=20&t=GEGWgANKQ42JhkQagtOgYw
01:53:05 Blaine Cook: Badger badger but just everything is a rhizome
01:53:16 James Walker (@walkah): snnnnnnnaaaaaakes
01:53:27 Blaine Cook: Only rhizomes
01:53:48 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUheuFDHSvI
01:53:59 Brooklyn Zelenka (@expede): For those who don’t get the reference
01:54:47 Blaine Cook: omg my eyes
01:54:50 Marc-Antoine Parent: On lovecraftian lore, the ancient ones (of mountains of madness fame) were supposed to be part fungi
01:55:30 Marc-Antoine Parent: where?
01:55:43 Joshua Fontany: Ginger roots have a nice rhizome shape...
01:55:51 Marc-Antoine Parent: https://causalislands.com
01:56:52 Joshua Fontany: but yeah, rhizomes are very outside our usually day-to-day entities